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The Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI shaft slots in between the successful Silver and Black profiles. Slightly higher launch while maintaining low spin.
Introduction
From the original 125 MSI to the newer 130 MSI in Silver and Black, the Aldila Rogue shafts have been high end performers that have stacked up wins on professional tours and in fitting bays across the world. For 2020, Aldila is expanding the Rogue family to include the Rogue White 130 MSI, a profile that fits between the Silver and Black, giving golfers the ability to dial in their feel and launch conditions even more precisely.
Looks
By now, the Rogue aesthetic should be familiar to all equipment nerds. The futuristic “Rogue” branding matches the busy, eye-catching graphics around it. A stark white background provides maximum contrast. Well before the mid-point of the shaft, the graphics transition to black so that’s there are no distractions at address.
Feel
With both the original Rogue 125 MSI and the Rogue Silver 130 MSI (review HERE), I felt the energy smoothly flow from grip to tip. That same even release is present in the Rogue White 130 MSI. For players that like a smooth, active feel but don’t want a shaft that “hinges” in one particular spot, the Rogue White 130 MSI is perfect.
Also similar to the Silver, the White presents a stable tip. Both shafts have the same torque rating in X-flex, though the White does have higher torque than the Silver in regular and stiff.
Overall, the Rogue White 130 MSI has a feel very much akin to the Rogue Silver 130 MSI, just dialed up a few notches. If you liked the Rogue Silver but felt like you had to work too hard to activate it, the Rogue White will be perfect for you.
Performance
If you read a lot of my shaft reviews, you know that my launch monitor numbers don’t always change in accordance with the specs of a shaft. I hit more draws with shafts that are billed as “high launch.” Conversely, I tend to hit more straight shots and cuts with stouter shafts, so my numbers all end up looking the same despite the performance being very different.
That goes a long way in describing my experience hitting the new Rogue White 130 MSI next to its older brother, the Rogue Silver. What stood out to me about the Rogue White was how the strong, smooth kick made me want to swing within myself. I didn’t feel like I was putting in a ton of effort, but I was still getting strong club and ball speed. With the Rogue Silver, the slightly stronger profile made me want to swing harder.
As I described above, the slightly softer Rogue White helped me produce more a “natural” draw where the Silver preferred the right side of the course. Given that difference in shot shape, I didn’t see a big gap in launch or spin between the two. As always, it’s worth emphasizing that this is how I reacted to these shafts, and your results may be 180 degrees different. Testing for yourself and being well-fit is always the smart play.
Like the Rogue Silver, the Rogue White 130 MSI is counterbalanced. This means that there is more weight in the butt of the shaft to offset today’s heavier driver heads. I found the amount of counterbalancing to be noticeable but not extreme. It didn’t lead me to boost my angle of attack, as some counterbalanced shafts do, but I did feel a very smooth, effortless release.
The Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI is available in three weight classes: 60, 70, and 80 grams. Regular, stiff, and X-flex are all available in 60 and 70 grams. Only stiff and X-flex are available at 80 grams.
Conclusion
Getting the right shaft is all about finding the feel that makes you most confident when you step up to the ball. With the Rogue White 130 MSI, Aldila has made a strong addition to their line that lets golfers dial in that feel even more precisely. Visit your Aldila fitter to test all the Rogue profiles and see if one will unlock more distance for you.
Matt Saternus
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Your comparison of the silver and white is spot on. Callaway hit a home run when they paired the Mavrik with the rogue white. For me it’s been “magic”.
60/70 grams… Wow, how things have changed in the last 5ish years…. I remember a time if you weren’t playing a 90/100 gram shaft you weren’t playing golf.
Sounds like s winner
Looks like an awesome product. Would love to try.
I have been playing the NV 65 and Proforce Red in my drivers for a decade, but at 57 I’m starting to lose some club head speed, sounds like this may be the shaft to try.
I used the RIP Beta in one head but found it a little whippy a few years ago.
Sounds like my Dream Shaft!
I like how this shafts performs for you my swing speed is just hovering upper 90s to just touching 102 once in a while when I feel good. Sounds like I would be a good fit for this.
Recently started playing again after 18 yrs.
Struggling with shafts on new drivers. Been custom fitted m6/ts2
Keep going back to old Nike driver regular
Could you please advise which aldila shaft replaced NV proto by you 65g.
Thanks huge for help.
Back playing off 8 and loving it
Lee
Lee,
What shaft were you custom fit into? And where were you fit? That will help me offer a better answer.
Best,
Matt
When you talk about the feel of this shaft, would you say the feels soft / true / stiff to flex?
Larry,
That’s entirely subjective, but I would say it’s true to slightly soft.
-Matt
You are 112 ss with the silver and 105 ss with the silver. They that much different or that your swing?
Jaron,
No shaft is going to add 7 MPH of swing speed. Please look at the dates on the reviews. I was swinging faster when I tested the Silver.
-Matt
Matt, read your review of this and Project X Smoke Black, considering both probably in reg flex, just wondering in your opinion which one plays softer, smoother and launches higher of the two. Thanks and Your articles are reference points I try to read when comparing equipment so I appreciate your help I am probably borderline reg/stiff and leaning towards your rogue white and just have not been fitted for one reason or another. Thanks again and may God bless you
Mark,
The Rogue is definitely smoother and higher launching, at least for me.
Best,
Matt
On the counter balance shaft do you add head weight to get the swing weight up or do you keep the same head weight ?
Thanks Matt
Is it possible to shaft (reshaft) the Adila Rogue White 70 into another club (non-callaway) head. I have the Rogue White in my Mavrik and love the feel, I like my current 3-wood and interested in reshafting my Titliest 905F 3-wood and would love that shaft in that titliest head.
Vern,
Yes, a good club builder should be able to pull the shaft and re-install it.
Best,
Matt
Hi Matt. Just curious about your thoughts regarding this Rogue White vs. Project X Yellow or any other counterbalanced driver shafts, particularly in stiff 70-75 grams. Thanks!
Andre,
The Rogue has a more active feel than the Project X HZRDUS Smoke Yellow. Another option to consider is the TENSEI Orange.
Best,
Matt
What weight and stiffness shaft did you test for the launch monitor results?
The 60-X shown in the pictures.
-Matt
Matt, How does the rogue white compare to the hzrdus smoke black?
I was just fit for Modus 130 stiff in my new apex irons and they are perfect for me. I’m more of a low launch high spin player (former baseball player), I was recommended the smoke black in 70g stiff by the fitter but loved the feel of the rogue white when I tried it. I like a stiffer butt & mid with more active tip.
Braden,
I have a full review of the Smoke Black here: https://pluggedingolf.com/project-x-hzrdus-smoke-black-shaft-review/
-Matt
Got the white in my Mavrik SZ. Been great shaft for me.
Hi,
I have the maverik with a rogue white 60 stiff. I swing at about 105mph and it sometimes feels a bit soft. Would you recommend the x stiff for that speed or is i more about technic?
Br
M
If the shaft feels too soft and isn’t giving you the performance you want, there’s no reason not to try the X. 105 is plenty of speed for that shaft in X.
-Matt
Hi Matt, a club fitter recommended theTensei orange driver shaft to me with my 102 swing speed for a stiffer tip, would the Aldila Rogue White 130 on a Mavrik driver be similiar to the Tensei Orange? Thanks
Dave,
Both are counter balanced, but I don’t recommend going against a fitter’s prescription if you’re expecting good results. Things that are similar on paper are, too often, very different in the real world.
-Matt
Matt,
I am trying the Mavrik Rogue White 130 MSI 70 driver with my swing speed of 103. You mentioned 105 is ok for an X. Is 103 that much different? Club feels a little soft near the bottom. I’m 57 years old and don’t know if the light feel of the shaft and additional softer feel should be replaced by an X shaft and also going to 80 g instead as well. Or I’m just older and remember the feel of the older shafts. Thanks!
Ed,
It’s all about feel and fit, so there’s no objective “Yes” or “No” to your question. That said if a 70-S feels too soft, there’s no reason not to try an X.
-Matt
Hi Matt,
My Mavrik Max driver is 12* & I play it at 11*. I replaced the 2g weight with a 9g weight at the back (14g at the heel) to try & reduce launch angle & avoid hooking it. I put the Project X smoke yellow, 6.0, stiff, 63g, low launch counterbalance shaft on it, length-45” with SW at D1.75. With all that said, I’m considering the Rogue White 130 MSI shaft in 6.0-S, 60g. Is it worth the switch or stick with the Smoke Yellow?
Thank you
Angel,
If you’re looking for a shaft to lower the launch angle, the Rogue White isn’t the first option I would consider. Lower launching options would be the HZRDUS Smoke Black, Diamana DF, or Tensei White.
Best,
Matt
I did try the HZRDUS smoke black but with my SS, 102mph, I found it to be too stout. The cb hzrdus yellow was easier to launch with less effort. Any major differences between the Rogue White & Hzrdus Yellow?
Thanks again for your reply.
Angel,
I have a full review of the Smoke Yellow here: https://pluggedingolf.com/project-x-hzrdus-smoke-yellow-shaft-review/
-Matt
Hi Matt-
Thanks for your great review(as always).
You stated that the strong smooth kick made you want to swing within yourself. That having been said, (if) when you really got after it and tried to coax a little more distance out of it, did you get the results you hoped for or did the shaft not let you get away with it?
The reason I ask is that my transition floats between moderate and fast. My driver SS is usually between 102-108, and I’m seriously considering this shaft (S flex) for a Mavrik SZ FW.
Thanks for your time
Merlin,
I didn’t love the feel when I went all out with this shaft. I’m not trying to be hyperbolic – “Oh, when I went at it, the shaft just melted and couldn’t deal with my power” – but it didn’t feel as solid as I’d like. But again, I was very happy swinging this shaft because it gently encouraged me to not swing like an ape.
Best,
Matt
Matt-
Sorry for the omission- are you able to compare this shaft to the PX EvenFlow Riptide shaft (same weight/flex). Thanks again
Merlin,
I have a full review of both RipTide shafts here: https://pluggedingolf.com/project-x-evenflow-riptide-riptide-cb-shaft-review/
-Matt
Hi matt
I play the callaway mavrik driver with the evenflow blue 70 6.0 my swing speed has increased throughout the last few months through training and general improvement. Was always around 105 now upwards of 109-110
I tried the aldila white 130 msi 6.0 but didn’t feel stout enough so wondered what the main differences were between evenflow blue and the aldila white 130
I’m thinking of getting the 68 gram x flex aldila
Let me know your thoughts.
Andy,
I have a review of the EvenFlow Blue here: https://pluggedingolf.com/project-x-evenflow-blue-evenflow-black-shaft-review/
-Matt
about to get the g425 and wondering which to go with, tour 65S or rogue white stiff. i have a somewhat quick takeaway and transition, and have a mid ball flight
Dave,
I would recommend getting a fitting and testing both before spending the money.
Best,
Matt
Matt,
I have a G410 with the tensei shaft in R. Before I go to Club Champion for a fitting for a G425 can you tell me the difference I might expect in the Aldila white shaft in R?
As always I will go with the fitter and the trackman but I’m just curious what your opinion might be!
Thanks in advance,
Jack
Jack,
Which Tensei are you using now?
-Matt
Matt – love the forum and your reviews really good information. So, I went through a few fitting sessions, last summer and recently as had a G400LST with the Ping Tour 60S. Loved the old set-up but wanted to tweak some performance as smash average was 1.47. Read review on Adila shaft and felt it might be a good fit. Swing speed was around 103-105 and numbers were still good, indicated really wouldn’t gain much with a switch to G410, G425, or with other tried (TSi3). Finally bought the 425LST with the Adila Rogue 130 70S. It corrected all the flaws that I was seeing in Trackman data, lowered spin by 400-500 RPMs, increased both spin and launch angle, and reduced dispersion – and loaded great. Picked up on average 7-10 yds and hugged the line lovely over 20 shots.
Here’s my question. Ping has now partnered with Arcos, never used but cool system. The Arcos sensor is built into the grip and not crazy about the stock ping grip(s). If switch to a GP multi-compound midsize and dump the Arcos sensor (since the Adila is counter-balanced) do you see the dynamics changing from test/set-up if don’t keep a similar weight in the butt end, equivalent added weight to the Arcos sensor? Like to keep characteristics same.
Thanks!
Joel,
If you like the driver the way it is, measure the swing weight, cut off the grip and sensor, weigh it, and then weigh the grip you want to install. If it’s the same weight, your SW should be the same, which you can double check after installation. If the new grip is lighter or heavier, you can adjust if the SW is meaningfully affected.
Best,
Matt
Matt, have you tried the Hzrdus IM10 and if so, how is the feel compared to the Rogue White? Thanks
Mark,
No, I have not tried the iM10 yet.
-Matt
Matt,
Iam an 8 HCP and have a swing speed of 100mph. I was fit for a HZRDUS Black Smoke shaft with a SubZero Driver (Never bought it… play a PXG – Tensai Blue in a low spin Gen 3 Driver). I am looking to mess around with a 3 wood to replace my 2 hybrid (get a few extra yards and a better alternative tee shot option. Would you think the Rogue White would pair well with a Maverick Sub Zero 3 wood for me? It would have a higher launch pt than the other shafts I was fit for, but I am thinking that might be ok with a 3 wood… looking more for control than distance.
Spiro,
My only suggestion is to get a fitting. If you were fit for HZRDUS Smoke Black, I think the Rogue White is a fairly big jump.
-Matt
im looking at getting a ping 425 max but not sure what shaft to get, i have been hitting a callaway big bertha fusion FT-3 9 degree for many years with an adila nv 65-s what is compared to this?
thanks
Jason,
My advice would be to get a fitting. If you’re going to spend around $500 on a new driver, it’s silly to not take the time to make sure you have the shaft that will optimize its performance for you.
-Matt
How can I tell if my rogue white 60g is a regular or stiff flex shaft?
Dave,
There should be an R or S after the weight.
Best,
Matt
I received my Aldila Rogue White MS1 70 G R shaft through 2nd swing two hours ago. It replaced my 50G R shaft Pro Force Mamiya Secor. I received excellent long distance from Pro Force but wants farther. I bought a used Aldila Rogue White MS1 30 70G R shaft because I read it through internet that between these two the author of the review recommended the Aldila Rogue.
Well , I went to try this Rogue at the driving range which is only less than 5 minutes drive from home here in Chula Vista CA the ENAGIC Country Club Golf Course. I used picked/ found great golf balls every day as I walked the perimeter of Enagic in the morning and afternoon as my daily exercise. I do not not use range balls any more because these balls took punishments daily and protects my Drivers as well.
Result, I consistently received ,more distance with this Rogue over 200 yards. We have tournament this coming Wednesday . My goal is on two on par fours and on three on all par threes. Thank you 2nd Hand swing for sending me Rogue 5 days earlier. Great shaft .
I just had a fitting for a 425 Max to replace the Stealth I currently have. My swing speed has dropped over the years from 100mph to around 80mph. The shaft on the Stealth is one I’ve had on M1, M3, M6, M5 and now the Stealth is a X Stiff. Turns out all these years I should have had regular (or even senior) flex.
The pro I just had a session with on the 425 Max said nothing about shafts which on reflection he perhaps ought to have.
Question – do I jump again to another driver or get a better more appropriate shaft on the Stealth?
FORE!
Eddie,
If your fitting did not include any discussion of the shaft, it was a bad fitting. I’d find someone else to work with, and they can help you decide if you’re better off re-shafting the Stealth or making a full change.
-Matt