PING Takes G400 Fitting on the Road

A Tour Van In Your City

For true golf equipment nerds, almost nothing is as revered as a Tour van.  We follow OEMs’ social media accounts for a glimpse into these mysterious vehicles.

Sadly, 99.9999% of us will never be fit by a Tour van.  However, PING is bringing that level of fitting expertise to the doorstep of millions of golfers.  In conjunction with the launch of the G400 series, PING has outfitted a van with every PING club imaginable, PING fitting specialists, and, of course, Trackman.  The best part is that it’s available to anyone who wants to be fit.

The Fitting – Irons

I showed up for my fitting at Cog Hill and met my fitter, Eric Stabenow.  He asked me to warm up with my 7 iron, observed my ball flight, and asked questions about my game and set.

After I was warm – which didn’t take long in 100% humidity – Eric took my static measurements, and we discussed iron models.  This is the fun part for a lot of golfers, trying the different types of clubs.  Since I had already reviewed each of the older models, we limited our fit to comparing the G400 to my iBlade gamers.  Unsurprisingly, the G400 irons are much longer than my iBlades.  My best swing with the G400 7I carried 190 yards, 25 yards longer than my iBlades!

PING has changed their iron fitting process for 2017, so the next step is now fitting for length.  I measure into and play standard length, which Eric said he rarely pushes people away from.  He said that many people think they should be in longer clubs, but he finds that they’re harder to control.

After length comes lie angle.  My measurements suggest a slightly upright iron (Blue Dot in PING terms), but I’ve always played standard/Black Dot to offset a tendency to hook.  Eric also had me try an iron that was one degree flat, but my contact was better with standard.  This is one of many examples of the quality of PING’s fitters: they’re focused on results (ball flight), not what charts or measurements say.

The final step in the iron fitting is choosing the shaft.  Eric said that with the shaft, more than anywhere else, he relies on asking the player questions.  He was less interested in staring at the Trackman numbers than he was in making sure the shaft felt comfortable in my hands.  Having already tested virtually every iron shaft under the sun, it was easy for me to find a shaft I was comfortable with.

The Fitting – Crossovers, Hybrids, & Fairway Woods

Once we had nailed down the iron specs, Eric asked me, “What’s the longest iron you carry and how far does it go?”  I love my iBlade 4I, and I can reliably hit it 200 yards in the air.  He said, “Ok, then we have room for two more clubs before the driver, something that goes about 210-220 and one for 230-240, maybe more.”

The G400 line has three options for this section of the bag: Crossovers, hybrids, and fairway woods.  Eric had already noted my tendency to hit a low ball, so we started with a 22 degree hybrid.  Immediate success.  It was flying 215 yards and landing softly.  Matched with the PING Tour 75 shaft, it did everything I needed.

For fun, we tried a couple other things against the 22 degree G400 hybrid.  We tried the 19 degree hybrid, but the ball flight was lower than we wanted.  We also looked at the Crossover.  I loved the G Crossover and had one in my bag for quite a while.  The new G400 Crossover is even better – it’s much more forgiving – but the low ball flight that it creates just isn’t a match for my swing.  Eric also put out the idea of a high lofted fairway wood, but I ended the experimenting – I was happy with the hybrid.

I was expecting that Eric would hand a 3W to me for the final spot.  Instead, he put together a 5W.  He said that with my low flight, a 5W would be as long – maybe longer – and much more playable.  The first two swings proved him prophetic – 240 yard carry distances on a trajectory that would actually hold a green.  Trust the professionals!  They know what they’re doing!

The Fitting – Driver

Since I’ve been trying to improve my swing, I’ve been fighting the driver like crazy.  I was not excited about this part of the fitting, but I went ahead and made a handful of passes with my current gamer.  Eric’s first question – which, to his great credit, he asked without condescension – was, “Why did you choose the LS Tec over the G?”  I sheepishly answered, “I was concerned about high spin” while thinking, “Because I’m an idiot.”

Eric put together a G400 driver with the PING Tour 65 shaft, and the first ball took off like a rocket.  I hit two more, and each was better than the best with my current driver.  Was a little of that the honeymoon effect?  Absolutely.  Is it also smart to play the most forgiving driver you can?  Duh.  High spin can be a problem but unless your impact location is incredibly consistent, it’s a distant second to forgiveness.

To close, I want to share a great nugget I picked up from Eric during the driver fitting relating to the hosel adjustability.  Eric noticed that I had my gamer set to -1 degree of loft (open face).  I explained that I preferred the look of the open face and that I wanted the anti-hook help.  Eric told me that by opening the face, I was making the driver more draw biased.  He went on to explain that’s why PING does not advertise using the hosel to correct directional issues.

Get Fit Like a Pro

I’ve been through more fittings than I can count, but I was very impressed with PING’s fitting experts.  I walked away having learned numerous important things about fitting and what’s best for my swing.

If you’re interested in being fit by PING’s touring specialists, you can call 1-800-474-6434.  They’ll be in Chicago at Cog Hill, St. Andrews, and Pine Meadow through September 17th and moving on to other markets later in the year.

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Matt Saternus

Co-Founder, Editor In Chief at PluggedInGolf.com
Matt is a golf instructor, club fitter, and writer living in the northwest suburbs of Chicago. Matt's work has been published in Mulligan Magazine, Chicagoland Golf, South Florida Golf, and other golf media outlets. He's also been a featured speaker in the Online Golf Summit and is a member of Ultimate Golf Advantage's Faculty of Experts.

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22 Comments

  1. Are any of these going in the bag??

    • Matt Saternus

      Tim,

      I’m definitely switching to the G400 driver. FW and hybrids are pending.

      Best,

      Matt

      • I am in the market for a new fairway and hybrid. These will definitely be on the list to hit during a fitting. The place I go is only one of two Ping adaptive fitters in Mass.

  2. James baker

    How does delofting/opening the face make it more draw biased?

  3. Frank Maiorana

    Hey Matt,
    Great piece. What shaft was tested in the 5W? I’m thinking of pulling my 17 hybrid (too low) and my old Nike 3W and maybe trying out the setup Eric had you in at the top of the bag. Can’t wait to try G400 driver with my Tour 65s or KuroKage Tini silver 60.
    Thanks, Frank

  4. Can you expand on that explanation on why opening the driver face makes the driver more draw biased? This has me quite intrigued! Great article by the way, I like that the fitter was less interested in “playing” Trackman and more into what really counts, ball flight.

  5. I have never went thru a golf club fitting before. So when you do a fitting like this are you committing to buying the clubs the fitter recommended for you on that day or is there some type of “fact sheet” the fitter hands over to you

    • Matt Saternus

      Kevin,

      In this particular instance, you are handed a sheet with your specs which you can take to any PING dealer to order the clubs. Other fitters may do things differently, though I’ve never heard of one that requires a commitment to buy the clubs.

      Best,

      Matt

  6. Matt,

    Ping is a great OEM to deal with, I hope they consider releasing Bubba’s new putter! Anyway, are the iBlades safe in the bag?

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  8. Good write up Matt,

    Next time you are in town, hit me up. We’ll get a round in.

  9. Matt, nice piece. As a Ping fitter/Demo Tech, I can echo your remarks about how your fitter didn’t rely solely on Trackman #’s. What I find when using Trackman or a Flight-Scope is that players tend to hit for #’s. They get obsessed with them and start swinging to beat or improve upon that last or best posted #.

    Distance is important….But, it’s really about performance. Desired ball flight & accuracy with irons. I’m as interested in a players misses as much as the good ones. In a game of misses, if we can help players make their misses better, now we’ve got something. Glad you liked the experience. The G400 line-up should do very well this next half of 2017 and into 2018.

  10. niles selden

    when will you be in Spokane wa.

    • Matt Saternus

      Niles,

      You will need to contact PING at the number listed in the article for that info.

      Best,

      Matt

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  12. Hi Matt, can you explain how the lie angle changes with loft change in G400 LST Driver. Was not able to find anything in the net. Thanks

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